For more than two decades, her family, friends, and supporters searched for answers and for justice. All four dogs, including one who was considered the best of the best, separately signaled an alert indicating the presence of human remain odors only in Flores room. They got to the parking lot of an apartment complex. They believe they can prove Paul Flores is responsible for the disappearance of Kristin Smart. We were standing by the washer and dryer and we were arguing and he shouted, No! and slapped my arm, Laura said. Lindsey Smart Stewart: She had traveled the world before she even made it to college. PAUL FLORES: On the advice of my attorney . Whatever happened in those early hours, one thing is indisputable: Kristin Smart has never been seen again. A judge on March 30 ruled that the trial would be moved out of San Luis . That turned out to be college. James Murphy: It was just a sad phone call to have somebody say, our daughter disappeared and we think she's the victim of foul play and we'd like to pursue the guy that we think is responsible. James Murphy: The podcast is out. Just days after taking over the investigation, the San Luis Obispo Sheriff's Office brought several dogs trained to detect human remains, to the Cal Poly dorms. We just, "do you know anything about it". James Murphy: Every day. Chris Lambert: They did a significant amount of digging underneath the house. The interrogation was recorded just days after Smarts college friends alerted police that she was missing. In 2002, after getting kicked out of Cal Poly, rejected by the Navy, and flipping burgers, Flores matriculated at LA Harbor Community College. Denise Pearce: Kristin hasn't come home And we're not sure where she is We don't know anything. What happens next? According to a county probation bail report obtained by the San Luis Obispo Tribune, "biological evidence" was found under Ruben's deck. The living room had a TV and one sofa and the floor was white, she said. Smart, a native of Stockton, was nearing the end of her. Flores said he suffered the black eye during a basketball game he played with friends in Arroyo Grande on Monday. But Paul Flores remained behind bars help without bail. I was like It wasnt. SUSAN FLORES: [Long pause, grabs water bottle] Of course not. He would tiptoe around everything. It is also what the Smarts have been waiting for for more than a quarter of a century. Paul would try to get Kristins attention and she was too nice to tell him off. Let's go." And here's your key." I would hear many of my friends tell me Oh he grabbed my butt but I never believed them, Laura said. His father, Ruben Flores, is also on trial because investigators charged him with hiding Smarts body. Chris Lambert: That's the upsetting part about it, isn't it? During opening statements of Flores murder trial this week, prosecutors played a video of Flores stumbling over questions from Cal Poly campus police detectives inside an interrogation room. He says "no.". She spent a summer in London, was an exchange student in Venezuela, and a lifeguard at a camp in Hawaii. Chris Lambert: As they describe it, Paul Flores just sort of appears out of nowhere. It's just a motivator for me. Chris Lambert: I didn't know the scale. When Lambert later told Kristin's mother, Denise, about those early morning beeping sounds in Susan Flores's backyard, he said her reaction was "shock we just kind of stared at each other for a good long time I think it took a while to settle in, that this could potentially be huge." So, when they were invited to a party that Friday night, Kristin was excited to go. They didn't look at the Flores family's vehicles. He'd go anywhere. And my roommate actually kicked down the door to make him stop. Just very involved with their children. Through the years, the Smarts have kept pressure on the Flores family. And it was only 250 miles from Stockton, California, where she grew up with Lindsey and their brother Matt. The Arroyo Grande home of Ruben Flores is being searched today for the remains of Kristin Smart. PODCAST EPISODE 1: I googled Kristin Smart's name every few years. Paul had this look on his face, the relative said. Chris Lambert, who worked as a CBS News consultant, pieced together what he learned from people who were there that night. But he entreated each woman who came forward to tell their story to The Daily Beast to reach out to his department. Flores told campus police that he never talked to Smart at the house party, but multiple witnesses who were at the party saw the two talking together next to a tiki bar inside the house. Murphy immediately filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Flores in civil court. Sheriff Ian Parkinson was able to confirm that forensic physical evidence that authorities believe is linked to Kristin was located at, at least two homes. Kristin Denise Smart (born February 20, 1977, legally presumed dead May 25, 2002) was an American woman who is presumed to have been abducted, raped, and killed at the end of her freshman year of college on the campus of California Polytechnic State University San Luis Obispo. Chris Lambert: I personally think that wherever Kristin went, Paul was there with her. Margarita soon decided she'd had enough. Around 2 a.m., party-goer Tim Davis told Smart that she could not spend the night passed out on the party houses front lawn because it was too cold. Laura said Flores worked a construction job while attending school but that he was very secretive and she suspected he was in college forever so that his mommy kept paying for his housing and classes.. And very chilling. DAN DOW [press conference]: We intend to use evidence of other sexual crimes in this prosecution to prove the facts necessary for the attempted rape in this case. Flores spit that he would rape her, she said. Two days after Kristin Smart vanished, Paul Flores went to the Arroyo Grande Police Department because of an outstanding DUI warrant. Chris Lambert: So much was lost in those first few days where if that very first phone call was taken seriously answers might have been uncovered the first week. Chris Lambert: At that point I don't think they had ever dealt with a missing person, a possibly murdered person. Margarita Campos: To this day, like, I was like, why why did I just let her go by herself? Im good, he said in response to questions about Smarts disappearance. Facts will show law enforcement was aware that they did not have a case. Little is known since the proceedings are kept secret, but no charges were ever filed. Four months earlier, Kristin Smart, a freshman at California Polytechnic State University better known as Cal Poly had gone to a party on Friday, May 24 the start of the Memorial Day weekend. Margarita Campos: I was a little bit more introverted and inhibited and she was like, "no, we have to go out and we have to go like live life." A break in the case happened in 2020 when sheriffs deputies wire-tapped the phones of Flores, his father, and his mother to record their private conversations. James Murphy: Paul Flores had a reputation amongst the girls that knew him at Cal Poly as being a creeper that he was always trying to hit on women. Chris Lambert says they're cautiously optimistic. Chris Lambert: And he says he got a black eye playing basketball with his friends. Despite identifying a prime suspect for her murder, law enforcement did not arrest Flores until 2021. I don't know if Kristin knew anybody there. Like what may have been discovered in March 2021 when investigators searched Ruben Flores' house using cadaver dogs and ground penetrating radar. I blacked out and didnt consent to anything.. He promised the Smarts that solving Kristin's case would be a priority. JAMES MURPHY: Do you have any information as to where Kristin Smart's body is located? Used to live: San Luis Obispo CA, Arroyo Grande CA, Torrance CA. The woman, whom we'll call Jane, believes she was roofied, raped, and discarded by Paul Flores and his nameless friend when she was a 15-year-old high-school sophomore in 1994. But was there evidence possibly placing Kristin Smart at his mother's home? Chris Lambert: So, if you believe Paul's story, he goes into his dorm room here. Even when law enforcement let them down, they refused to give up. The Lassisters say soon after, strange postcards began showing up in their mailbox. / CBS News, (This story previously aired on May 8, 2021. Over the years, while Stan Smart hiked every trail around California's Central Coast in hopes of finding Kristin's remains, Denise relentlessly pushed law enforcement to do more. . Smart was last seen with Flores's son Paul. Lourdes Aguiar is the senior producer. Have a good day, he said. James Murphy: They're interested in seeing Paul Flores get convicted and Ruben Flores get held accountable. But as Chris Lambert learned, campus police did not act right away. He gets his arm around her torso and her arm around his neck, and he's helping her walk. He believes that meant "the batteries went dead and that the object that was beeping hadn't been there very long.". Flores claimed after walking Kristin back from the party, he went to his room in Santa Lucia Hall while she walked alone to her dorm. When they were deposed by James Murphy, they also insisted their son was not involved. And there were those nonstop tales of Flores being touchy-feely with her friends. But while campus police weren't doing much, Kristin's parents were doing whatever they could to find their daughter. James Murphy: The question for decades was "Well, where did the body go?". James Murphy: And it's 2:30 and 3 o'clock in the morning at Cal Poly this is not a a location from which Paul alone could easily move a body without a vehicle. But Murphy says there were other incidents that should have raised alarm bells about him with law enforcement from the very beginning. But cadaver dogs told a different story. Ermelinda Flores' property in Washington state has been searched by investigators in February 2020. San Luis Obispo County. Meanwhile, three other women told The Daily Beast that Flores sexually assaulted them after Janes assault and Smarts disappearance. Ruben lived here with his wife, Susan, and their children, Ermelinda and Paul. Even more difficult to understand was why they waited two months to search the family home where Paul Flores was living with his father, Ruben. But I've seen it. Denise Pearce says that was a crushing blow for the Smart family. But Flores basketball friends told investigators that he already had the black eye when he showed up for the game. and I was like, "Noooo.". This boy walked up to me and said Oh hey, you need to be careful of that Paul Flores, I think hes stalking you. One female cousin called Flores a pervert. Back in San Luis Obispo, the Smarts, feeling ignored by the sheriff's office, continued a relentless campaign to get them to do more to find their daughter. PODCAST EPISODE 2 [LAMBERT READING REPORT] Smart does not have any close friends at Cal Poly. So, she slowed down and walked with them. Paul Flores and his father both pleaded not guilty to all charges at their arraignment. That mother, Mary Lassiter, described it to Chris Lambert. He hired a detective to work full time on the case, and over the past nine years deputies have carried out searches, conducted new interviews, and gathered additional evidence. Thats when everyone got involved, she said. The day after my sister disappeared, Paul Flores had a black eye and scratches on him. She told Lambert that after several months, the beeping stopped. Flores and Smart had spoken at the party. Stan and Denise Smart, Kristins parents, sent The Daily Beast a statement praising the women for coming forward to share their stories and hope it leads to a break in their missing daughters case. The Kristin Smart Scholarship has been established by her family to help other college bound women pursue their dreams. Dave Minsky,. "48 Hours" contributor Jonathan Vigliotti takes viewers inside the popular podcast and haunting case in "The Disappearance of Kristin Smart.". to find the next challenge. I told him, You never do this again! Susan's house was finally searched in March 1997 nine months after Kristin disappeared but nothing was found. During a camping trip in Fresno, California, in the early 1990s, Floress female cousins playfully swiped and hid his wallet while walking en route to a liquor store to purchase slush puppies. They had become close friends despite their differences. San Luis Obispo County Sheriff deputies arrested Paul Flores, the primary suspect in the disappearance of Kristin Smart, and his father, Ruben Flores, at separate locations Tuesday morning. Im good. Sarah said shes still haunted by Flores. How could she have gone out of town? During one interrogation with campus police on May 28, 1996, Flores story changed about what happened after Anderson left. I called my mom. Ruben Flores was released on $50,000 bail to his ex-wife. I would turn around and he would be right there lurking, the woman, referred to here by a pseudonym, said. In one of Paul's police interviews he mentioned that he wanted to be let out of the interview because he needed to help clean up concrete at his mom's house So, what was being done in Susan Flores's backyard in the weeks after Kristin went missing? JAMES MURPHY: Would you state your full name for the record please. DAN DOW [press conference]: It is alleged that Mr. Flores caused the death of Kristen Smart while in the commission of or attempted rape. Still to this day I am afraid to go to the bathroom by myself in public places, she said, admitting she still asks her husband every time to stand sentry at the door when she has to go. James Murphy: And it says wrongful death and then I put murder. After they broke up, Laura did a little sleuthing and discovered her ex-boyfriend was accused in Smarts vanishing. Chris Lambert: Paul worked with a number of women that he made incredibly uncomfortable girls who he tried to make a pass at sexually, girls that he tried to force to kiss him. He called his father at 9:47 a.m. on Sunday, May 26, 1996. When authorities later confronted him with the two stories, Flores admitted lying and offered a new explanation. I always said, He wouldnt do that., Sexually, Laura paints Paul Flores as very experienced and maintaining a very healthy appetite., It would get too aggressive and at times I had to say, Hey, calm down., Laura says that one time they were wrestling in bed and Flores got too aggressive and grabbed a butter knife and pushed it against my face., She says she kept pleading for him to settle down. Last month, authorities searched Ruben Flores' home in Arroyo Grande. Flores has never been charged in this case. Get off her.. Lindsey Smart Stewart: "You should go to Cal Poly. Kristin's mother, Denise Smart, spent Memorial Day weekend at a swim meet with her two younger kids. I don't think she went back to her dorm at all. But 22 years later, when he couldn't find any recent stories about the case, he decided to do something. Four months later, while attempting to reconcile, Susan rented out her house in Arroyo Grande. The moment still haunts her. Regresar a la bsqueda. In the interrogation video played for the jury, detectives can be heard asking Flores, If anybody lies as much as you have, about something as serious as this is, what does that tell you?. PODCAST EPISODE 4: And he had like a butter knife and he like held it to my neck. No-no-no. A woman nearby screamed at Flores to get off her and threatened to call the cops, she said. He grabbed me down there and while Im yelling at him my girlfriend threw a piece of gum at his face and he pushes her down., At this point every male at the party joined in to jump Flores, who fled, she said, adding, Boom, he disappeared., That same year, Sarah said, Flores pursued her again at a friends birthday party. You can go." When they showed up, it was Paul Flores. Paul Flores, lower left, remained in jail without bail while Ruben Flores, upper right, was able to post bail after a judge agreed to lower the bail amount from $250,000 to $50,000, San Luis Obispo County Superior Court/Zoom, How a tragic boating crash is connected to the family of Alex Murdaugh, Husband of woman murdered with an ax convicted 40 years after her death, Five deaths with a connection to Alex Murdaugh's family investigated, Florida man tries to use COVID-19 as a cover for murder. Paul R Flores and Paul Raul Flores are some of the alias or nicknames that Paul has used. They also did not focus on Paul Flores immediately, waiting six days to formally interview him. (The office hired a detective in 2015 to work on Unsolved Crimes for $15,000 a month: There are four open homicide investigations and Smarts remains an unsolved missing persons case. They were soon joined by another partygoer, Paul Flores. At a Halloween party back in 1995before Smart had gone missingFlores allegedly grabbed Sarahs crotch on the dance floor. He claimed he didnt even know her name, Peuvrelle said. Even though he'd never investigated anything before, Lambert quit his job to create a podcast about the case. PODCAST EPISODE 2 | WOMAN #1: I wasn't surprised, but there's also that shock value of kind of "oh my god, I knew it! When buying cowboy boots, there are a few aspects to consider, such as how far up they go on your legs and their design. And Murphy and Sinclair believe they can prove it. In the meantime, Paul Flores moved to Southern California, where he bounced from job to job. Jonathan Vigliotti: And that weighs on you. Lindsey Smart Stewart: Right. PODCAST EPISODE 3 | MARY LASSITER: It was like a red thing and it was like a smudge-like fingerprinted look on the back, just red, like maroon, like old looking and the smudge that it was like half a fingerprint. Jonathan Vigliotti: You look at Kristin Smart every day. Ian Parkinson: Yes. And it all came back to me. Prosecutors Think Paul Flores Tried to Rape Kristin Smart in Dorm Room Before Killing Her On April 13, Paul's father, Ruben Flores, 80, was also arrested and charged with being an accessory. 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. You wouldn't let any of your friends be drunk around him. November 27, 2020 / 8:14 AM Personal details about Paul include: political affiliation is unknown; ethnicity is Hispanic American; and religious views are listed as Christian. And for the first time clues about what may have happened to Kristin Smart. Also known as Melinda E Flores. Chris Lambert: Paul keeps stopping along the way and letting Cheryl Anderson know, you can go on ahead. I've got her. Those were kind of unspoken things. Ruben Flores defense attorney is slated to deliver his opening statements when the two trials resume on Thursday in a Monterey County courtroom. But Sarah kneed Flores in the groin and kicked him in the shin before dashing off into the party. If you use a windshield cover, you can at least forget about scrapping the ice off your windshield to save some time and hassle. My heart dropped, she said. Early on, a small group of volunteers also looked for Kristin. James Murphy: To see them in custody was a feeling of great joy for me. On April 13, 2021, almost 25 years after Kristin Smart went missing, longtime suspect Paul Flores, 44, was arrested at his home in San Pedro, California, and charged with murder. Facebook gives people the. Please come with me." Lawyers representing Paul Flores, a man found guilty last year of murdering Kristin Smart in San Luis Obispo in 1996, filed motions last week to dismiss the jury verdict and for a new trial. The sheriff's office still wasn't convinced they had enough evidence against Flores. Chris Lambert's podcast caught the attention of millions of listeners and sparked new interest in the decades-old unsolved case of Kristin Smart. Friday, May 24, 1996, was the start of the Memorial Day weekend. How a tragic boating crash is connected to the family of Alex Murdaugh, Husband of woman murdered with an ax convicted 40 years after her death, Five deaths with a connection to Alex Murdaugh's family investigated, Florida man tries to use COVID-19 as a cover for murder. Not at all. More than two decades later, Chris Lambert, a podcaster who was investigating Kristin's disappearance, tracked down and interviewed Mary Lassiter. 1998 - 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. | All Rights Reserved. The Smarts say they tried to file a missing person's report with the local police but were told it was too early, and the FBI told them Cal Poly police were in charge. Chris Lambert says, two days after that, when Flores was interviewed by campus police, they asked how he got his black eye as well as scratches on his hands and knees. But as Chris Lambert learned, Flores's pattern of behavior with women didn't stop. Flores said he suffered the black eye during a basketball game he played with friends in Arroyo Grande on Monday. "48 Hours" agreed. In his mug shot, a black eye can faintly been seen. He never expected it would be a hit, but his podcast caught the attention of millions of listeners and sparked new interest in this decades-old unsolved case. DAN DOW [press conference]: We have evidence that we do believe there are other people that are not yet identified that have had some kind of a criminal act perpetrated on them by Mr. Flores. Alicia Tejada is the field producer and Addison Briley is the associate producer. JAMES MURPHY: In May of 96 were you a student at Cal Poly? 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