Nice sky? We didn't really come into any kind of agreement with the Haber thing. They've got a- a very plausible, very credible high status scientist at a high status scientific institution. He figured maybe 1% of these men would keep flicking these switches up to the highest voltage, but that's not what he found. Thanks also to reporter Aaron Scott for that story. And Hitler takes over. And that's all the difference in the world. I mean-, So again, the baseline study is the one where 65 percent of the volunteers-, But in experiment number three, if they put the shock-ee in the same room-, With the shocker so the shocker could actually see the person that he's shocking-. It's 9:24 hours on June 17th, year 2003. When you call someone, "Evil." It's about 1880. He figured maybe one percent of these men would keep flicking the switches, up to the highest voltage. I got it in front of me, I've just got the data from the Milgram study. And, "Well why the rage?" His experiment remains one of the most famous experiments of the 20th century. His was the first generation when a young Jewish boy could truly imagine that he could just be a regular part of that society. We take a look at one particular fantasy lurking behind these numbers, and wonder what this shadow world might tell us about ourselves and our neighbors. You can find out more information about all those guys on our website, radiolab.org. Well, if you dressed it up, and if you had some minor vairance in the paradigm, you could presumable, you know, make- make this up. He walked out of the room, and just started weeping. And oddly enough, we got a really interesting take on the true nature of badness from this guy-. Read these words. It was actually a crushing blow for- for him. And he said, "To start, you want to know about bad? Okay? And what he means is that when nitrogen atoms are just free floating in the air, they will cling to each other. He felt publicly humiliated. After all he knows what he can stand. Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts Kittens Kick The Giggly Blue Robot All Summer 2.7K views over 2 years ago 41:58 With the recent passing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, there's been a lot of debate about how much power the Supreme Court should really have. Shoots herself in the chest. You know, solar energy from the sun to grow crops. Wow. And you know what? Equal Housing lender licensed in all 50 states. Mm-hmm (affirmative). What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? And in the trial, when the prosecutors essentially ask him, "How you came to commit genocide?" Science. radiolab-archive. David always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. In the other room, there was a guy who he called the learner who is supposed to have memorized some words. A liquid that has captured the nitrogen right out of the air. The experiment requires that we continue. Imagine they really were had to administer shocks to themselves or something. Obviously no need to be alarmed. And 91 percent of the men said, "Yes." You know what? Hey this is Jad, RadioLab is supported by IBM. ", "We'll basically bring it to the front and when the- when the wind is right, we'll just spray it.". Why did you do this?" Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. That was not a real shock. That's Fritz Haber's wife. But he does it with a kind of, uh, amoral athleticism. "The experiment requires that you continue.". And while you're doing that, just give me your finger. But even with all that gore and horribleness, there was often a moment that people waited for. I thought about grabbing a knife quickly and stabbing him in the chest repeatedly until he was dead. And I basically spent the next half hour walking around with him trying to cool him off. Investigating a strange world. And they go, "Why?" Radiolab is supported in part by the Alfred P Sloan Foundation enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. "Why did you inflict all this suffering on them, on us? Nice job? And, like, it kind of, like, hurt his feelings. The fact that he kept on doing it over and over and over again was like, "Come on.". [inaudible 00:49:36] bad people in Shakespeare. And it's kind of surprising, a lot of them are really positive, even though they've just been told that they were duped. Any time the experimenter said, "You must continue" the shocker would say, "Hell no, I don't.". Especially when it came to one particular fact. Okay. But as the play goes on, you begin to think that maybe that's just another lie. Leaving his son alone with his dead mother. Have you ever thought about killing someone? Eventually Iago convinces Othello that his wife has been disloyal; which she hasn't. We begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and 84% of women, have fantasized about killing someone. Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. Eugene [inaudible 01:07:32], Sierra Hahn, and everyone in the manuscript and archives department at the Yale University Library. Yeah. He brings her up as an example of a woman that he actually had strong feelings for. Okay, so what happened to David that night with his friend got him really curious about murder, and badness, and all these things we're thinking about. Thanks to all our great storytellers, Dan Charles, Sam Kean, Latif Nassar, Fred Kaufman, and Fritz Stern. Like you just did, which happens constantly. Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslam is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife, Clara Immerwahr. The expectation is somebody is made to make his peace with his maker before he dies. That the earth couldn't support this many people. Uh, he's a master plotter. He has a podcast. But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife. And on June 13, 2003, Gary was secretly taken out of his jail cell, and brought to a sort of very nondescript, concrete, ugly office building. And once again, another nitrogen compound. We should say that this next section of the program has some references which are extremely graphic and not to everybody's tastes. If any sizeable fraction actually acted on their homicidal fantasies, the streets would be running- running red. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. And so, Satan basically systematically destroys Job's life, takes away his wife, his children, all his material possessions. Radiolab is supported by Audible. In that why, in that one simple why that he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. Today's date Is June 17, 2003. Would change where the shocker and the shock-ee sat. Yeah. Who they would kill, where they'd do it, when. Haber, it's unknown what happens for the rest of the evening, but it is a well documented fact that the very next morning-. Check out the Blank Slate, a book by Steven Pinker, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. The time now is 08:36 hours. Is there a way to explain why some people act the way they do and others don't?". Well, let's talk about Fritz Haber. Like, you walked into the room, what- what do you find? Well all right, I'm starting to feel a little bit better about my fellow man. What you know-". And so I expanded the sample where we asked about 5,000 people-. Um, "Demand me nothing. It is a fair question to ask, "What are the conditions under which you, or me, or any of us could do-. Jeff Jensen's book is the Green River Killer: A True Detective Story. Live shows were first offered in 2008. "You know, you're not the first person that's ever done this.". I mean, yes, I did lie about that. The Green River murders terrorized Seattle in the 1980s. I think you got to answer it, "With him." I-. And invited me over. We have kids in the- in the room. And you tell us, "Actually, no. Go on please. Podcasts; . The killer seems to have placed the bodies as if they were mannequins. And "Well, why the rage?" We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. Wasn't satisfied [inaudible 01:01:21] maybe mad 'cause she was very much in a hurry. He walked out of the room and just started weeping. What makes boys boys and girls girls. Gary is dancing around this topic. Maybe it's all about doubt in the end. Continuing using the last switch on the board please. And at the very end of the play when everyone finds out what Iago's done, Othello asks him, "Why? Hi, my name's Josh and I'm calling from Harlem, New York. Certainly friends of his did. But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. Yeah, but those are fantasies, they're some of them actually seem like-, Okay, this is a 20 year old female. The time now is 0836 hours. Pince-nez, okay. That was just for those of you haven't heard it yet, this is a kind of a rush through a- through sex reproduction. Can we really know that? Look, the participants, it's not just blind obedience, "Oh you tell me so, yes sir, no sir, three bags full, sir.". If it doesn't show that people are just obeying orders-, All right, let's go on to our instructions. Well what is something's happened, the man had an attack or something there? But in a us sort of way. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of. And he says that's what people wanted. With higher and higher voltage. Why did you inflict on this suffering on them, on us? What you know you know. So the subjects seem willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say, "It's an order.". So, right around 1900. And so in 1918, Fritz Haber gets the Nobel Prize. Members of his extended family did. He was always smoking his Virginian cigars. Suspected that it could be upwards of 75. Push button, get mortgage. Let's go into our instructions. Unusually so in those times. It comes to us from our reporter, Aaron Scott. Listen Infective Heredity. Listen to free wherever you go to podcast and sign up at openearsproject.org. If those two participants refused to go on-, Saying like, "I don't want to kill a guy. So, you ask like, why do people do bad things? We're all great apes. The experiment requires that we continue. Yellow mucus was frothing out of their mouth, those who could still breathe would turn blue. Hey, it's Fred Kaufman, I'm calling to read the credits; here we go. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. I'm Jad Abumrad. Radiolab is a radio program produced by WNYC, a public radio station in New York City, and broadcast on public radio stations in the United States. Yes. They couldn't deploy it, they couldn't deploy it. I killed her. And when nitrogen and hydrogen bond together, the thing you get-. And he is basically homeless at this point. Like, how do you tell the real baddies from the rest of us? This is just a tsunami of evil that passes through the play. Nobody had done what she was about to do on the scale that he was about to do it. And she takes a service revolver-. In 2016, Abumrad took a four-month break from Radiolab, in large part to recharge from what he's described as burnout from the years of making the show in his distinctly intense and very. God, I feel like we haven't, you and I sat together and said our names in quite some time. He had an experimenter who wasn't a scientist, but was a member of the general public. That's radio producer Ben Walker. He was in this, um, uh, uh, state of fury, he said, and, um, and instead of hitting his wife, he smashed his fist into the bathroom mirror. Finally acknowledging, "Yeah, that's true." The first victims of the Green River killer were found in the summer of 1982. connect it to this little electrode to your finger. And, uh, I heard about him from science writer Sam Keen. See now around this point I just don't have anything to do with this guy, I just want to take a shower, walk-. But he does it with a kind of amoral athleticism, he does it without humility, without a lot of doubt. Uh, when- when asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60%. We don't exactly know why. "This was exactly what was in my mind. It was- it was a warning smell so that people didn't inadvertently breathe it in and get sick. Because if you ask university undergraduates, "What does the Milgram studies show?" The good Iago who makes you want to shower the minute you leave the theater 'cause you are sullied by him. Okay. They were gagging, they were choking. In graphic detail. Wasn't satisfying me, it made me mad that she was very much in a hurry, she had something else on her mind, and I killed her. I mean you have to remember, during the Crimean War in the 1850s, Europe starves. This is Jeff Jensen and he's a reporter in LA. Up until that point, Gary refused to say, "That from the minute I picked these women up, I wanted to kill them." Let me- let me jump just, uh, a quote in front of me. Because the thing that you put into the ground to grow more food is also the thing you can explode to make a bomb? Radiolab weaves stories and science into sound and music-rich documentaries. I mean, you have to remember, during the- during the Crimean War in the 1850s, Europe starves. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. That allows an individual to act inhumanely-, It's like a downloadable from the internet; instant defense for doing wrong. No. Milgram staged the whole thing like it was some experiment about memory and punishment, but of course it wasn't about that. Hey, I'm Jad Abumrad. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues-. The Bad Show Publication date Mon, 09 Jan 2012 05:00:00 +0000 We wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. And actually this wasn't just a German thing, a lot of people were beginning to worry that with about a billion and a half people on the planet, at that point, that maybe we were maxing out, that the earth couldn't support this many people. Yeah. He says that he's always been hiring people based on how smart they are, and not who their grandparents were. As soon as it did, soldiers began to convulse. Well I can use that same process-. A lot of WNYC podcasts do transcripts-- I know On the Media does. And if they didn't go on, if they resisted [crosstalk 00:18:11] the experimenter would break out prod number two. In a rage how? This- this is really important. Does everybody, at some point, have something dark in them that just tiptoes out, from time to time? Under extreme, extreme pressure. He knew about it. And it's just sort of approaching. Now we're seeing about 100 million tons of synthetic fertilizer produced industrially each year. You know, just because of a mathematical summing up. When Lucy was only two days old she was adopted by a psychologist and his wife who wondered: if given the right environment, how human could Lucy . But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod And this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006; total disobedience. Iago. ", "Set deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench, you quench with their tears. Then a few months later, he started calling me trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. ", Yeah, we just need a whole lot more of one simple-. Thank you Ben. It just that-, Yeah. But that's just a- those are fantasies. And every scenario produced a different result. So, I'm just going to go into this other room over here. In front of this really impressive looking machine. She just burst my eardrums (laughs). The- the last time she- she was in a hurry. That's like an adult blue whale of chlorine. The killer seemed to have placed the bodies as if they were mannequins. And is found by her son. I'll give you bad. But if you could somehow get a real Iago in the room, and subject that person to questioning, and really get them to sort of fess up as to why they did it, would that make a difference? He didn't really want to cop to everything that he did. There's a sort of chilling comparison which is a speech that Himmler gave to some SS leaders when they were about to commit a range of atrocities. The son eventually after he immigrates to America kills himself. In that moment, my father, he stands up and he says-. This is just a tsunami of evil-, And at the very end of the play, when everyone finds out what Iago's done, Othello asks him, "Why? And then, in experiment number four, when the teacher has to hold the learner's hand down-. We're going off tape now. But he organizes soldiers, he organizes whole gas units. Yeah. And a mysterious past. And even when they do say, "Yes." Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. The participants that are there in this study-. Obedience droops to about 40 percent [inaudible 00:15:40]. Leaving a son, a- a- alone with his dead mother. And even when they do say yes, even when they go along with the experiment, as you can see in the film. They reached back to the shelf and they find this Zyklon stuff. Outside of WNYC, I think This American Life does as well, and I know enthusiastic fans transcribed Serial.. And you know there's nothing a closet full of clothes to help balance that out. And while David's sitting in the bedroom with this friend, the guy looks up at him and he says-, Like, through his teeth. In fact, his chemist had given this particular pesticide a smell. I just needed to kill because of that. These are- these are people who are incredibly noble. Meaning, any idea what was in his mind? Three, two, one. And isn't this a good thing that we have people in our society who are willing to make sacrifices for a greater- the greater good? All rights reserved. The subjects of 40 males between the ages of 20 and 50. In- in other words, nitrogen has really strong attachments to itself. Radiolab is supported by Audible. Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? Now there's a footnote to this that is very strange. Of course normally just have one experimenter who's giving you these instructions. They're not doing something because they have to, they're doing it because they think they ought to. I liked her. Okay, one of those very tiny old fashioned pair of glasses that would pinch on your nose. How do you tell the real baddies from the rest of us? It's very important because if you ask university undergraduates what does the Milgram study show, they will invariably say something like "They show that people obey orders" okay? And, um, in January of 1984, the Green River task force was formed. Why did you take these women off the streets and wanted to destroy them? But the generals were not all that convinced. She was actually a sort of a genius herself. I've been thinking about him for the better part of a year as you know. Radiolab is supported by Casper. According to James, he's not the baddest in Shakespeare or in life because ultimately the play offers up a reason for his nastiness. Um, could you just- just tell me, uh, the little story that you begin your book with? Let me just get that out. Um, we lived together for a couple months. I mean, you know, it's just one of those things we've been bringing back shows that we think are just vibrating still in the world. Shoots herself in the chest, and is found by her son. With all of the black-and-white moralizing in our world today, we decided to bring back an old show about the little bit of bad that's in all of us.and the little bit of really, _really _bad that's in some of us. I- horrified is- I was- I was pretty stunned. Three times a year, two times before-. It's part mix tape, part sonnet love letter, kind of like a daily musical journey into other human lives. You know, you're not the first person that's ever done this. With help from Adam Cole, Rachel James, and Matt [Kielty 01:07:25]. He, ultimately, spent 17 years searching for this man. But you can't throw that air onto a plant. Um, with a black belt in karate. If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you an un-understandably evil man, no motives, no reason; any idea what the hell he was intending? He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. Go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30-day trial and a free audiobook. "Definitely yes.". And I designed a little, um, questionnaire where I simply ask the students, you know, "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" Well, the thing that haunts me about the why question that I'm reminded of one of the oldest stories in the Bible, which is the story of Job. We want what Elizabethans got at the scaffold, which was a confession. Maria Matasar-Padilla is our managing director. He recruited a bunch of subjects-. Cruelty, violence, badness. ", In Titus Andronicus, there's a character by the name of Aaron the Moor-, And there's a moment in the play where Aaron gets up on stage, looks at the audience and says, "Let me just tell you the kinds of things I've been up to recently.". I don't know, I can't help but feel bad for the guy. So Stanley Milgram actually begins these experiments-. Well,the experiment requires that you continue. But in a famous incident, one of England's leading scientists refuses to shake his hand. He even schemes against his own wife. With help from Shima Oliaee, Carter Hodge, and Lisa Yeger. Yeah. Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. She was one of the first women to earn a PhD in her country. The guy yelling, of course, was an actor, and the shocks weren't real. Radiolab was created by Jad Abumrad and is produced by Soren Wheeler. 10s, 10, 15, 20 times. That's historian, Fritz Stern, who also happens to be Fritz Haber's godson. I'm not saying a word. And they're both secularized Jews. Now, Haber was Jewish, but because he had served in World War I-. He eventually goes to England. And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why? Do we know? That's it? And they're behind the German lines is-. What my father and his colleagues know is that something was done to these bodies; many of them after they were murdered. He buried them, or left their bodies in these little clumps in the woods-. And one of the first acts that the Nazis do is to basically issue an order that says there shall be no Jews in the civil service. And so, I ex- expanded the sample where we asked about 5000 people. in what is basically like the Baghdad of his time (laughing). Uh, Haber it's unknown what happened for the rest of that evening, but it is a well-documented fact that the very next morning. And I think what we want out of the why is meaning, meaning to life to reveal itself in a way that restores order and give us hope that all of this isn't just meaningless chaos. No, because if you couldn't afford a ticket for a play, you'd seen all the plays, in the 1500s, you could always go to a public hanging. And when hydrogen and nitrogen bond together, the thing you get-. Is that- is that nitrogen is trivalent. Now the volunteer couldn't see the guy he was shocking, but he could definitely hear him. WNYC is America's most listened-to public radio station and the producer of award-winning programs and podcasts like Radiolab, On the Media, and The Brian Lehrer Show. In those days if you're a convicted male felon, you are strung up, but you're not allowed to hang until you die; you're cut down before then. He would obscure. And he hasn't talked about it with anyone until I interviewed him for the book. But in experiment number three, if they put the shockee in the same room with the shocker so the shocker could actually see the person as the shockee. Birds would just fall from the air. That guy yelling of course was an actor and the shocks weren't real, but the questions in the air at the time were very real. But I needed to kill her because of that. with Lulu Miller, and Latif Nasser. Wore a little, um, uh, pince-nez? Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. Now, as we sort of know in life, lots of things that we if they're worthwhile doing, they're not always easy. And actually, this wasn't just the German thing. Was it nice day? Radiolab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science, technology in the modern world. You know, he's a man adrift. And he goes home for a few days a hero. And on their skins, as on the bark of trees, have with my knife carved in Roman letters, 'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'". I think I call it [prince-nez 00:28:23], so I'm not sure. I think they have to be extreme in the extreme. Like, you know, "Who are you?". Before the guy is cut to shreds, he's allowed to confess, "I heartily regret the fact that I killed the young maiden or defamed the king." And so he says that and you're like, "Okay, yes come over now. And they ask for it to be reformulated to take out the warning smell, and it becomes zyklon B, the killing gas of the concentration camps. I'm Robert Krulwich. Radiolab - Transcripts Subscribe 187 episodes Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. 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