The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. (typically with the dots de-emphasised using colour and font size), is a brand of Irish whiskey produced by William Grant & Sons. For a blend, I am really impressed with the Michael Collins. About 5 or 6 years ago they flooeded Irish bars with it just before St. Paddys Day,almost forcing bars to sell off a lot of free stock they received. I just brought some Tyrconnell 10-year port cask aged home from duty free it is delicious. stupid fucks In response, Guzzi This bill . Father Urban has succeeded as a business operator on behalf of his monastic . Whiskey, or "uisce beatha" in the Irish language, is an integral part of Ireland and Irish culture. Support the old sod. Thanks, Mike. The word "catholic" means "all-embracing," and the Catholic Church sees itself as the only . The date of 1608 doesnt even specifically relate to that brand but that a license was granted in somewhere in that general area. A great whiskey. Also, your giving Prince Harry more money to go on vacation, maybe Vegas again perhaps? I usually drink my whiskey neat but would anyone be able to recommend an Irish whiskey cocktail/mixed drink that doesnt included coffee or a green liquid? It has been my favorite since discovering it at the Buena Vista Cafe in San Francisco. As most Irish distillers use their barrels more than once, the color and bourbon flavor is thinned a bit once blended. I had the 15yr old Kilbeggan during a visit at the Cooley distillery a few years back, and it was damn tasty. The truth of the matter is, the age-old faux-pas of ordering Bushmills for fear of supporting English aggression and offending the Republic of Ireland is about as Irish as corned beef which is to say, not very Irish at all but rather Irish-American (Sorry, kids, corned beef is a Jewish invention). If you had and asked for Bushmills, you would have received a long stare and possibly been asked to leave. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. As regards the Catholic v Protestant whiskey debate. Im trying one at a time to see what I prefer. I am also a fan of Tullemore and Black Bush. The only option is to import a case in through the provincial liquor stores at about $35 CAD per bottle. Fathers side Ulster.ancestors to America ca 1719. So, which Irish whiskey is Catholic? Not what I would call a cheap whisley, albeit there are many out there that can cost a fair penny more. hint of linseed. Concept of Deity. Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. Roman Catholic influence on the whiskey world doesn't end with Henry VIII, however. Argument ended.. Jameson is the Catholic whiskey, Bushmills is the Protestant one, despite the efforts of the Bushmills PR department to spin it otherwise. Im an American Catholic raised in the bible belt, West Virginia to be exact. Right. Holy moly, It's been going on for thousands of years across the globe. I was aware of the obvious problem with the claim that Bushmills is 'protestant whisky' but this gives a great insight. I grew up in a so-called Protestant area in west County Down where nobody really cares what you are. So, I figured then maybe I was Protestant Irish? Im a man who likes to know what he is drinking. As for the religious differences, its always been easier for those not in the mess (in the US, England) to say and perpetuate things over that of those who have to suffer the views and manipulations of outsiders. Ive always preferred the non-woodsy irish Whiskeys so Powers, Knappogue, Red Breast, and recently the Spots have been my drink of choice and never was a fan of bushmills. Have an OHaras Red and a Jamison on me. Ah. Some, like Jameson, are owned by Catholic companies. All appointments are made solely on the basis of merit.. Today in Trader Joes, the checker looked at my bottle of Bushmills and then at me and asked, Catholic or Protestant? I had never heard that one before. The Protestant Reformation began in Wittenberg, Germany, on October 31, 1517 . I agree with Robert McHardy above. This was the time when Protestantism, through its definitive break with Roman Catholicism, arose to take its place on the Christian map. Still love it. FoinahYou nailed it. I was born in West Belfast and I can tell you, that most Catholics prefer Jamesons. Anyway, both of your sources are wrong, but at least your father got the order right. I live in a small town in Texas, I am Catholic and I am treated as if I am a leper. Maybe they will bottle the Cork supply in Tullamore in the interim. Understanding the church. Who do I believe, the man who raised me, or some drunk I met in a bar? Im not sure that it says anything more than that it isnt a strictly American argument. Anyone try Kilbeggan Irish Whiskey? 1996 in coal harbour Vancouver BC. I dont give a rip shit about religion and in fact LOATHE the typical evangelical protestant types like Swaggart, Murdoch etc. Just a point, Jameson is traditionally a Dublin Whiskey, originally distilled and blended in Bow Street in dublins Smithfield. catholic - from the Greek adjective (katholikos), meaning "universal". I generally have several bottles of Irish on hand. Methodist and Presbyterian. Looking for Irish Whiskey to use in a recipe for bread pudding I paid a visit to our local liquor store and inquired as to the best Irish Whiskey available. There were licenses to distill granted in and around the Bushmills area in 1608. Whiskey has no religion. Liquorice-like sherry notes I was a bartender in NY in the early 90s and in 98 moved to Kinsale Cork and bartended their for 4 yrs. And I was not drunk !!! The Thirty Years' War was a series of wars in Central Europe between 1618 and 1648. This is because Guinness is now seen as a world-wide iconic Irish brand and brings in lots of money to the southern Irish economy. If I was the kind of person who blogwhored, I would http://tinyurl.com/d92kdl Bushmills also provides single malt for Powers, while Midleton (where many of teh Irish whiskies are produced) provides grain whiskey for the Bushmills blends. Bad Catholic that I am, I always drank Bushmills over Jameson. In April I went to Jerusalem. I do live in a Hicktown. There was still a lot of Catholics in Scotland. Should these facts come into the discussion when considering whether or not to indulge in a pint of the creamy delicious black stuff!? Trust me on this. Up here in Canada (BC) its quite difficult to find. [4] At the time of his visit, the distillery was home to five pot stills, two of which with capacities of 25,000 gallons, were amongst the largest ever built. All Irish whiskey is great. An Italian friend, when introduced to the term Uiske Beatha thought the word was bad water and now refers to it as Aqua Sporca or dirty water. Not sure if it is available outside of Ireland, but if you can, get a hold of a bottle. I grew up in NYC with this popular myth engrained on my conciousness. By far the biggest of this selection. It may not be factual, verified, or correct, but definitely true. My South Side Irish Chicago Dad always told me that Jameson was the Catholic whisky and that Bushmills was the whiskey made by the damn Protestants. Cured beef appeared in many cultures and has no clear beginning. He said he was going to spend 90% of it on women and Irish whiskey and the other 10% he was going to waste! : ). Ireland is %110 united in whiskey. But my personal preference is Redbreast, a twelve-year pot still Irish whiskey produced at the Old Midleton Distillery and a real delight to sip while enjoying a late-night Irish breakfast of sausage, egg, pudding and soda bread. Help! I think Irish whiskey is like Scotch, meant for sipping, not mixing. I tried Bushmills a couple of years ago and was surprised to find I liked it a lot, too. I got into Powers through my wife, ans she learned of it from Shane MacGowan(s music). Do you have a clue what an ol Yankee could do there for wages? Though it is good to remember that Bushmills & Jameson were selling about even worldwide up until the mid/late 1990s, before Pernod decided to put all of its eggs in the Jameson basket. As a proud Corkonian, I feel the need to set the record straight. But that's merely based on geography: Bushmills is from Northern Ireland (a predominantly Protestant region) and Jameson is from Cork - Catholic country. March 17, 2016 / 1:00 PM / CBS San Francisco. This is part of a long standing agreement from the old IDL days. I wanted to explore one of t, @teremana has been my new favorite tequila since t, Happy Repeal Day! In the tv show The Wire McNulty made a comment about not drinking that fucking Protesant whiskey when asked by Bunk why he always drank Jamesons. [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. Tulley Dew 10 Year Single Malt! Theyve also started work on a massive bottling plant on site to bring all areas of Dew production back to the town. Not one of ya mentions Knappogue Castle. Arthur Guinness was definitely Protestant And a Unionist. He was adamantly against Home Rule as well. Some of the comments here are totally rediculous. Whiskey hasnt got a religion. Look for a new addition to the landscape, The Irishman Original Clan & Single Malt. The date 1608 listed all over the Bushmills bottle is not only the date The King of England allowed distilling to take place in Northern Ireland it is also the date the plantation of Ulster began. Being RC from Ulster, Ive had Jameson (and other Cork products) in plenty of Prod pubs (whether in Belfast or elsewhere) and plenty of Bushmills in RC pubs (whether in Dublin or in staunch republican areas of Cork, Kerry, and elsewhere), and never been hassled over it. Whiskey is Catholic. Cheers! Ferdinand II was a devout Roman Catholic and relatively intolerant when compared to his predecessor, Rudolf II. In return, Bushmills receives grain whiskey from both Midleton & Cooley. Dont be so ignorant as to think about whether a whiskey is protestant or catholicidiot. Catholics and Protestants have a different view on the nature of the church. They have started construction now on a grain still on site now which means that the full three components of the blend will be produced in Tullamore. and Rangers F.C., the two largest Scottish football clubs sometimes referred to as the Old Firm, whose support base is traditionally predominantly Catholic and Protestant respectively. Sweeter, rich with barley, and perfect with one ice cube. wear my orange on St. Patricks Patrick Irish whiskey tends to be a lighter style of whiskey than Scotch or American whiskies, but that doesnt mean its necessarily lower in quality. I was born in buncrana moved to Derry then to Belfast and am now living in the uk Im Catholic and I must say I prefer Bushmills to Jamesons although Ive been a life Long fan of Jamesons it doesnt matter whether your Hun or teag drink what you like dont bring sectarianism into it itll spoil the taste. Thank you for the real-world experience! In addition to Powers Gold label, a 12-year-old premium blend, and several single pot still whiskeys have been released under the Powers banner in recent years: In the 2012 edition of the Whisky Bible, whiskey writer Jim Murray named Power's John's Lane Release Irish Whiskey of the Year and described it as "certainly one of the top five world whiskies of the year". Funny thing is, Jeffrey, that at the end of your debunking of the myth, you subtly reassert its validity in rightly noting that Bushmills is owned by Diageo, a company based in a largely Protestant country, while Jameson is owned by Pernod-Ricard, which is based in a predominantly Catholic country. Found it very smooth to the tongue. Im married to a Protestant and my best friend and fellow whiskey hound is a also one. My wife has just blown raspberries on my belly whilst Ive been reading this crap seriously it doesnt matter which type of sky fairy you believe in bushmills black label vs tulamore dew is a close run thing and depends on how and what mood youre in rather that some stupid pagan affiliation. It retails slightly cheaper than Jameson in the US, at $16 a bottle. The version that Im familiar with is, of course Jamison is Catholic and Bushmills is Protestant. I drink it often . Paddy is pretty readily available in the New York Metro Area, but Ive never seen it since I left for warmer climes. But none of it means much, anyway: both distilleries are owned by huge international entities: Jameson by French liquor conglomerate Pernod-Ricard, and Bushmills by the English firm Diageo. It is a fact that Bushmills is distilled in Northern Ireland, and Jameson hails from County Cork in the Republic. Also, you ask what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon? I am pretty sure that if you visited the Guinness brewery in Dublin your guide would not have mentioned the fact about the companys discrimination against Catholics, let alone advise on boycotting it. Fact: the worst atrocities in the Irish struggle for freedom were perpetrated by the Irish on each other and were not likely fueled by religious affiliation but the politics of the time. I am for Bushmills especially sprinkled over banana bread. I find it to be a littlethick? #103. Catholic and Slovak-American, my personal preference is Jamesons. Jameson is a blended potstill whiskey (malted + Unmalted grain blended with grain whiskey). Tullamore Dew is aged in ex-bourbon and ex-sherry cask type, whereas Jameson is aged in oak barrels. The good news is I dont have to worry about car bomb in Hicktown. It was the anti-Catholic hiring practices that Bushmills employed in Northern Ireland that fueled the snub. I dont generally buy it, but Ill drink it without complaint. Nice lark, it is my keeper whiskey (special occasion), while Powers is now my everyday spirit. [1] Irish Distillers owned the brand until its sale to Sazerac in 2016. As for the Tullamore Dew, it actually is the perfect mingling of North & South, since the pot still & grain comes from Midleton in Cork and the single malt is distilled at Bushmills (then aged down at LDI). Ginger cake, brazil nuts, treacle In the mean time, the closest I can get to Ireland is my Bushmills and Guinness at night, and Kerrygold butter on toast for breakfast. Had drinks in the Irish Embassy (in Korea) as an invited Englishman. Most protestant in my area have a real problem with Catholics. I will second the Powers recommendation to add some turf to the fire. Not sure this is the right spot, but an Irish colleague and I, had this debate last week around Bushmills v Jameson in an Irish pub, here in New York. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. [7], In 1871, the distillery was expanded and rebuilt in the Victorian style, becoming one of the most impressive sights in Dublin. The attitudes and actions of German Catholics and Protestants during the Nazi era were shaped not only by their religious beliefs, but by other factors as well, including: Backlash against the Weimar Republicand the political, economic, and social changes in Germany that occurred during the 1920s Anti-Communism Nationalism Get over it and drink what you feel. If you want to support Ireland, go and visit and maybe read a few history books and hopefully realise that most normal people dont give a toss about religious leanings. Powers Gold Label for me, thank you very much. Not buying a certain brand of product because of centuries of English overlordship of Ireland is just so stupid on so many levels. Produced at Cooley for Sidney Frank, it appears to have been geared mainly for the American market. As a Scotsman living in Scotland, Id say I f youre worried about the religion of your whiskey then perhaps you shouldnt be drinking. Distilling of locally grown agricultural to produce alcohol is something that is not peculiar to Ireland. Theres not catholic or protestant whiskey. The big difference between the two whiskies has nothing to do with religion, which is silly and, in some respects, rather ignorant. [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. As a good Roman Catholic, Ive always raised my Jameson in tribute to my Irish Catholic brethren (actually I like Jameson a little more than Bushmills anyway) until, on a recent trip to Ireland with my Irish-American Wife (nee Powers), I bought a bottle of Redbreast on a lark. I even have taken a liking to Bushmills Irish Honey when Im in a cocktail mood.Not being Irish and not wanting to get political. Not what religion you think a whiskey holds. is that a catholic thing? The Roman Catholic church developed its dogma based on the issues brought forth by the . The answer is that it depends on the distillery. (Ref. Besides, Id have to prove I can fill a job where the company cant find a local. However, ownership remained in the family until 1966, and several descendants of his sisters remained at work with the company until recent times. Like Jameson, it is blended whiskey, some combination of pure pot-still whiskey with column-still grain whiskey (allegedly 70% pure pot still to 30% grain). Anyhow, being 2nd generation American with grandparents from Greece, Ireland & England, I come from a long line of short, fat, peasant stock (with alcoholic tendencies, thank you). My mother, an Irish protestant spoke hatred against the Catholics. This must be one of the most pointless debates I have seen in a long time. Instead, American Catholics drew exten sively from an earlier movement launched by Father Mathew, a Catholic friar in Ireland.1 This article analyzes the ways in which lay Catholics adapted temperance 1. If it was a genuine issue then bars wouldnt serve both. Im an Irish barman and I am stunned by the ignorant waffle that some Irish Americans spew about the oul sod. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about jeff. Since the closure of the John's Lane distillery, many of the distillery buildings were demolished. I even stayed in what was one of the hotbed cities during the troubles. No matter where it is produced. Thank you everyone for the new rea, Finally home from three wonderful days in Berlin a, When life gives you fresh passionfruits. However, its all moot now as the French reap the profits in the end , Jameson, Bushmills, Tullemore, Red Breast, Powers. Hi and i take my hat off to Rob Mchardy answer 34..more people should be like you and the world would be a nicer place,anyway there is only one kind of whisky,the answer is in the spelling. @Eamonn: always good to hear from a Dubliner. We dont live in the dark ages anymore, though clearly prejudice and ignorance persist. The northern Protestant states, angered by the violation of their rights to choose granted in the Peace of Augsburg, banded together to form the Protestant Union. Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? McNulty comes back with aw, thats Protestant whiskey! Grudgingly, he accepts, but asks for it neat. Get your facts right ! It was largely untouched by the Troubles and paramilitaries. A fair amount of nonsense in some of these replies. Robber jumps out of an alley, holds up a gun, and says, Are you a Protestant or a Catholic? Man says, Neither, Im a jew. Robber thinks for a moment, says, but are you a Protestant Jew or a Catholic Jew?, are you a Protestant or a Catholic? In whiskey world Northern Ireland is considered to be part of the irish island so no reason to judge Bushmills to be protestant or not. I come from the border and powers was the biggest seller by ten to one over any other whiskey,jemmy was next ,bush mills was not even on the optics and it was all about their hiring practices of workers and not the religion of their owners, @jen This works in the same way that Protestants love their Guinness just as much as Roman Catholics in fact, I know a lot of Catholics who never drink the stuff. Like seriously you hate us so much you wont drink our whiskey??? Love Black Bush but Jamesons Gold Reserve gets my vote as the very best Ive had. Enjoy your whiskey and spare a kind word for everyone. While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. When it comes to what crosses my lips I guess I am an agnostic. And we should all be thankful for this. Brands! This is an interesting thread and I have a few more now to try. In: St. Patrick's Day. Whiskey takes no sides and is drank by all Catholic, Protestant, Hebrew, Atheist, etc. Personal life experience. Have a good one. Thanks all for your comments. Porn S, Eugene, Oregon friends! Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. William Riley, well said, man. Any particular reason why in 1998-1999 Bushmills would have distilled of at least bottle up for Jameson ????? Tim, I made a great Manhattan variation last night with 2oz Powers Gold Label, 1oz Carpano Punt E Mes and a dash or two of Angostura (regular, not orange), stirred up with a cherry garnish and enjoyed it very much indeed. Cant comment on the long term contract in Cork as I hadnt heard that, but I assume they have some sort of get out clause if there is a contract. Although, when faced with only Jameson and Bushmills, I will usually go for the Bushmills. Now this character I met at the bar is trying to tell me its the other way around. And it was always welcomed as a special Balkan business bestowal, to grease whatever wheels needed turning. Your email address will not be published. Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. But I must say my absolute preference is Jameson 18 yr old. For this reason, Bushmills has a bigger flavor, while Jameson has a much lighter flavor. @Allen: Thats just my point. I can solve this argument. 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